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    ssica3003 3:35 pm on November 30, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Seriously, greedy… 

    I have recently seen examples of bi people standing accused of being called greedy and those people suffering distress because of it. My previous posts have outlined the light-hearted and “reclaiming” nature of the club night we run in Bristol called Greedy (it went quite well, by the way!) but now I feel it might be time to help people who are troubled when someone makes the biphobic statement that they are greedy.

    The statement is biphobic because it is so often expressed thus: “you’re just greedy”. The “just” is significant. It implies the unspoken first half of the sentence: “you’re not bisexual… you’re just greedy”. Or, “you have not made a statement about your sexuality… you’re just greedy”. It means that the speaker of the statement has refused to acknowledge your sexuality as a description of which gender(s) you may consider dating. The speaker has instead made a stereotypical judgement of your character or your dating/sexual practices based on no evidence whatsoever to do with you as a person, but rather on misguided assumptions forced through a world-view framework that only allows binary genders and sexualities, with some prejudice dolloped on top for good measure. The speaker has been an unthinking douchebag. This really hurts when strangers say it, but is so much worse when it is a partner or friend or family member. They have been incredibly hurtful, not to mention unspeakably rude and have outed themselves as a dick. And now they’re looking at you with no notion of their douchebaggery expecting you to explain yourself. If you’re very unlucky they are also looking triumphant, or mocking.

    At this point, it is perfectly acceptable, perhaps even useful, to exit the conversation. No-one debates persuasively when they are upset. Remember also that there is no onus on you to defend yourself to douchbags, the onus is on them to learn, even if they never take it up. Some of us feel we must fight on behalf of other bisexuals, but it is much better that you are happy and safe. You are not letting the side down if you walk away. Getting all up in a douchebag’s face on a regular basis is what people like me are for. Anyway,  if the conversation is with someone that you care about, it may speak volumes that you are so upset by what they have said that you simply have to walk away. They will probably start fawning around saying “I didn’t mean it, it’s a joke etc.” which is good because it has put them where they should be, in the ‘bad guy’ seat. Continuing to do nothing, walk away or changing the subject will only make your position become stronger. Then later, when you have had time to pick up your feelings, gather your thoughts and maybe re-read this blog post or other advice, you can spring the topic on them when they least expect it.

    Now the key to all prejudice is that people have no idea what it is like to be the other person. They have no empathy for your life, your experiences or your feelings. Bisexuality is a particularly murky, dangerous and opaque thing for some monosexuals to contemplate, especially the ones who have tied the exclusivity of their gender preferences to their identity. The poor things are actually frightened by the implications of your sexuality, if they are not simply being thoughtless. This is useful to know when dealing with prejudice. It somewhat explains the outrageous nature of their reactions, since fear makes people kick out much harder than most other things.

    Now, a route explaining that you are not “just greedy” involves unpacking their assumptions and one of the best ways to do that is by questions. Things like,

    “what exactly do you mean by ‘greedy’?”

    “how does me being bisexual relate to me being greedy?”

    “what is your sexuality?”

    “does that mean you are attracted to all men/women in the world?”

    “oh, it doesn’t? So what are you attracted to?”

    “How do you think it made me feel when you denied my sexuality?”

    (if you want to) “do you think being greedy is a bad thing?”

    Asking someone exactly what they mean by a thing is a really good way to not have to say anything and gives you loads of information about where their ideas are coming from. Don’t stop asking questions until the speaker is exhausted. Try to keep yourself neutral, and react to their answers as if it is a very interesting opinion, but one which you may or may not share. Ask in a spirit of genuinely trying to understand. This makes people realise that they are espousing exactly that, opinions, and in fact the whole world is not on their side. It makes them think about what they have said. I think in most cases that will be enough. 

    If, after this grilling they want to ask you questions, an amazing tactic I read about in The Ethical Slut (about polyamory) is to answer their questions as simply as possible, then let the speaker ask another one. This will help you navigate through what their particular confusions are without having to do a giant speech about the whole of bisexual experience, hoping to hit on something they can understand. For example:

    “so, you’re bisexual?”

    “yes”

    “so you’re greedy?”

    “no”

    “so, you fancy men?”

    “well, some of them”

    “and you fancy women”

    “um, sometimes”

    “but you need to have them both in your life?”

    “I have loads of girl friends and guy friends”

    “no! I mean you have to have more than one relationship!”

    “no”

    “but you said you fancy both!”

    “‘fancy’ and being in a relationship are different. I’m monogamous.”

    “but you look at women when you’re with a man, though, right?”

    “no”

    … you get the idea. Speak as few words as possible and the nature of the person’s questions will let you know where their hang-ups lie. You have hopefully not lost control of the situation and have not had to reveal anything that is too hard/emotional to say.

    There are some key things that monos get all confused about. They think your sexuality means you fancy all men and all women in the world. Just get them to realise ‘hetero/homo sexual” does not mean you fancy all men or all women in the world. After this, they think that in a given room you are going to have more options than monos. Firstly, you fancy blue eyes, so you actually have far fewer options, secondly it is nothing to do with you if they self-limit to vaginas. Non-bi people also think you have to have “one of each” to be satisfied. Just relate your attraction to genders to something they find attractive, like hair colour. Ask them, if they have a blonde girlfriend, are they pining after brunettes all day? Do they cheat with brunettes? No, because finding something attractive does not mean you have to have it in your life or else you’re only half a person. Being bi is not heroin! Good quote. Oh yeah, the monos are obsessed with halves. Half gay, half straight, that sort of thing. Try to make them understand that you are a whole person, all of the time. When you are eating icecream, you’re not secretly weeping inside over a lack of cake.

    In conclusion, take yourself away until you feel less emotional, ask them questions until they squirm, let them ask you but give simple answers, know thy enemy and remember that you do not have to defend yourself – you know what you are and how you feel and they are just a fucker. Also, try your hardest to find some bi folks, online first and then in real life. It is so much easier with an army at your back. We’re with you!

    And now, some further, more flippant ideas:

    “you’re just greedy!”

    you’re just jealous!”

    “you’re just greedy!”

    “are you bi? Then you have no right to comment.”

    “you’re just greedy!”

    “so I fancy 7 billion, you fancy 3.5 billion, I think we’re in a pot, kettle, black situation here”

    “yeah, but you have more options none the less”

    “actually, I don’t, I have far fewer, because hardly anyone accepts my sexuality, including you.” BOOM!


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    ssica3003 4:21 pm on November 23, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    What’s in a name? 

    One of our members came across this blog post about Bivisible’s club night, Greedy. I was encouraged by the comments from readers, which mainly said that, as bisexual people, they took this to be a tongue in cheek name and were not offended by it. However not everyone felt this way. Other commenters provided the extra info that the night was run by bi people, rather than a gay venue’s misguided attempt to cash in on the bi market. They also stated that at least this was a night for bisexual people and they were glad it existed, which warmed my cockles no end.

    When the issue was mentioned on Facebook, one of the facilitators of the Bivisible group gave this response:

     Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I can confirm that the name is indeed tongue-in-cheek. At Bivisible we recognize that some people might find the name problematic, but we also enjoy having a sense of humor about ourselves, and the name Greedy is supposed to be in the spirit of feeling greedy for post-weekend fun (since it’s on a Tuesday night). There is no assumption being made here that bi people are greedy or slutty or whatever. Just as so many queer nights have words like fag or dyke in their names, we are simply trying to make something positive and fun out of a negative phrase. If anyone would like to discuss this further, why not come to our Bivisible meet-up at Cafe Kino this Thursday evening? X

    An excellent response to which I might only add that we were interested in fitting in with/riffing from the other gay nights around the city, which at the time were named Mutiny, Wonky and Liberty. Having heard of other bi nights that “reclaim” stereotypes (such as The Fence-Sitter’s Ball) the name Greedy became completely irresistible.

    All of this was decided in conversation with our current members, however I realise now I have yet to publicise in print the reasons for our decision on the name. I found the conversation on the other blog post mentioned above very interesting, so does anyone else have any thoughts about the name Greedy?

    ps, if you appreciate that the club night exists, why not come down and join us next week, we can’t continue to exist and represent the bi community’s diversity if you are not present!

    EDIT: have revisted the blog and have a couple more thoughts. One is that it makes me sad to go to such effort to provide things for other people in my community and be trashed for it :-( Such is life though. No-one with a positive or negative comment has asked us why we used the word Greedy, yes the venue is a gay club and finally I have no idea where the poster they have used on the blog post came from – I don’t think it’s one of ours. As you can see from the Greedy page, ours are much better than that!


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    ssica3003 2:48 pm on November 17, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    How To Tell If You’re Bi 

    I’ve met lots of people who are bi and I know that lots of people struggle with whether they are bi or not. There are precious few resources out there so hopefully this post will help you.

    Do you like the label/word bisexual?

    If you are ok with it, you might not be bisexual.* People who are not bisexual use the word bisexual freely and uncritically. It is a completely enmeshed letter within LGBT. It is spoken by straights in the same breath as “gay” and “lesbian” to describe, you know, one of those people. One of those people. Gay and lesbian people are similarly happy to use the word bisexual. It’s the word to denote, you know, one of those people. One of those half-gay or not-out people.

    But people whom the word “bisexual” is supposed to connote are not so happy with it. There are lots of problems with it. Nobody, absolutely nobody, wants to be it. Nobody sees the word and thinks, hell yeah, that is totally me. This is why there is still a persistent rumour (and not just amongst lay folks) that bisexual people don’t actually exist.

    So…why? Why do people not want to use the label “bisexual”? For the most part it is because (not 100 percent straight and not 100 percent gay – look, I’m going to say “bi” for short) people know how they feel inside, they know what kind of sexual and/or romantic responses they have.  And that feeling inside is absolutely nothing like the feeling inside they have when they see the word “bisexual”. The two things just don’t tally. Not even close.

    People having these thoughts about the word bisexual feel normal inside. They do not feel like one of those people.

    Bi people have one thing in common: they have, at some time or other, questioned the assumption that attraction to another person is always automatically closed down by gender. This assumption is at the heart of the definitions of sexuality.

    Once they have interrogated this assumption, they have found that at some times or in some circumstances they are able to be attracted in some fashion to persons who are not of their preferred gender**. This process seems (rightly, in my opinion) a very normal thing to do.

    Once the bi person has come to the (somewhat scary or even shocking) conclusion that they might be attracted to their non-preferred gender under certain circumstances they are often at a loss as to what to do with this new information. (If they have done this process very early, for example at puberty, it seems even more strange that so many others use this arbitrary marker of gender for selecting their objects of desire.) Typically, at this point, the bi person keeps it under their hat. If they are in a relationship, then this is a good reason to close down the line of thought. If they are single, they have until now been moving in non-bi circles and have not the faintest idea how to go about observing, approaching or attracting their non-preferred gender and even if they do, they have little chance of meeting people under the ‘special circumstances’ required for them to consider such people attractive. New information. Hat. Under.

    In addition, it is clear that many people either do not attempt the first part of the process (the assumption that gender is a close-down to attraction is so strong that it is not even visible as an assumption) or if they have questioned the assumption, everyone has concluded that they never, under any circumstances can be attracted to their non-preferred gender. So suddenly the bi person feels different to everyone else. But they are still the same person! They still feel normal! It’s everyone else who is being lazy or just…. deciding differently.

    Anyway, along comes the word “bisexual”. This word has been inscribed with many thousands of meanings, assumptions and stereotypes that have been devised by people who are not bisexual and have no idea what it feels like to examine the gender-is-the-first-marker-about-my-desires-FOREVER assumption and come up with one of the scariest thoughts in all humanity which is: “well… that depends”.

    We’ve all been raised in a monosexual world where bisexual means:

    A person who is equally attracted to any and all genders
    A swinger
    An unfaithful cheater
    A slut
    A vector for disease between gay and straight people
    A person who is gay really and is not out
    A person who can’t decide
    A person who can never be with just one partner because they are always tempted by the other gender
    A person who is half gay and half straight
    A person who constantly engages in threesomes
    A person whose gender identity is related to their sexuality

    The person with a hatful of new information is not these things! Not even one of these things! That doesn’t feel normal. That feels horrible.

    And on the other hand it doesn’t help when people spout the obvious fallacy, “well, we’re all bisexual really.” We are not all bisexual really. Otherwise, we would all be bisexual. Really.

    But, there appears to be no other word for a person who has challenged the gender assumption and come up with “well… that depends”. A technical definition of “bisexual” means “attracted to more than one gender”, which, while it kind of fits, there are all the stereotypes and also “that depends” is nowhere near strong enough evidence to completely change one’s sexual orientation. Real bisexual people*** would be offended and angry that one might even consider calling oneself by the term. Besides, everyone knows that sexuality is a fixed thing that you find out at puberty and the idea of changing from one to another is offensive. Right?

    So. The person with new information under their hat decides that they don’t like labels, because they are wildly inaccurate and none exist for their perfectly normal feelings. Besides, one word cannot describe “cisgendered female who has until recently been extremely attracted to men but one day wondered in a feminist context whether she had historically only ever allowed men sexual access to her and started looking at girls and noticing they were kind of nice”. And even if there was a word, very few other people would be it. People should be able to just be themselves, without having to justify anything. The under-the-hat person has thought, and stated “I’m just myself” and if anyone asks specifically about whether they are sometimes attracted to more than one gender in certain contexts to different degrees, then they’ll be sure to tell the truth. As long as their partner isn’t present. And luckily no-one ever asks.

    How am I doing so far? Well…..?

    Well I have something to tell you.  You are bisexual! Congratulations!

    Every bi person I know has had this or a similar thought process. Some bi people have been bi since puberty and always suspected that gender markers are arbitrary, and so have had a slightly different journey, but in general, for one reason or another we have stopped ourselves and said, “hey, wait a minute…”. It is correct to think that “bisexual” is a rubbish word that other people misinterpret, but even in sexuality contexts can tell you almost nothing about a person. Totally correct, but this is the same for other words too (Christian, Left/Right politics, feminist, kinky…)

    It turns out there are few other words to describe that feeling of challenging-the-gender-assumption****. Using a recognised word has some very important bonuses. Having a word, which one can then reject, makes it a thing. A thing that is normal. A thing that means you are not weird and most certainly not alone. It helps us find other people to talk to. Community support is very important for wellbeing, especially mental health. It’s also a word that can be rallied round to get some other useful things, like proper sexual healthcare and advice. Currently, few people declare they are bisexual and so few sexual health clinics think to offer you condoms and dental dams. The ban on bisexual blood is also an issue that discriminates against us.

    Plus, we need those bisexual club nights! Places to go where first attempts with non-preferred genders will be looked on kindly rather than with scorn. Where “bisexual” means ‘probably more flexible over gender than average’, but not ’swinging sex club’, though those are good too.

    Importantly, as bisexual people, we are the ones who can decide what “bisexual” really means. It is not until you meet other bi people and see how differently they perform their bisexuality, yet can clearly still call themselves bi, that you realise that there is no fixed definition of what “bisexuality” actually is. It turns out, this word can be yours.

    And that is just the start of an amazing journey into a world of attraction, romance, love and (for some people) sex, that can support and make grow the whole, bisexual you.

     

    *not newbie bisexuals: I know you’re ok with it!

    **and a few bi people do not have a preferred gender

    ***I am smiling as I type this.

    ****there are a few, and they’re awesome (pansexual, fluid, omnisexual) but none are canon to outsiders in the way “bisexual” is.


    Tagged: bi, bisexual, community, just me, mental health, normal
     
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    ssica3003 11:02 am on October 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Today At Bivisible We Love… 

    Carly Rae Jepsen… we think she’s amazing and has cool queer videos.

    Check out ‘Call Me Maybe’ and ‘Good Times’ with Owl City


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    ssica3003 11:51 pm on October 3, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Today At Bivisible We Love… 

    Shoe gaze music – today’s band is: My Bloody Valentine

    And we really, really love MSCL. Those who know love it too!

    Also dungarees.

    Beautiful men in skirts http://niceskirtbro.tumblr.com/ drool


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    ssica3003 10:43 am on September 23, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Bisexual Picnic 

    If you go down to the Woodes today, you’re sure of a big suprise.
    If you go down to the Woodes today, you better go in disguise
    For every bi that ever there was, was gathered there for certain because
    Today’s the day the bisexuals have their picnic!

    Woodes cafe, Park Street, 1pm-4pm bi flag and cake present :-)


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    ssica3003 11:30 am on July 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    We Are: Proud. Bis at Pride 

    Saturday 14th July 2012, 11am, Berkley Square (behind Park Street)

    This is the official invitation from the Bivisible Bristol folk for anyone who might consider themselves not quite 100% gay or 100% straight to come on down to Bristol Pride 2012. The parade meets at 11am at Berkley Square (residential street ‘behind’ Park Street and near Brandon Hill Park). The parade will march down Park Street to College Green where the festivities are being held.

    There is often not a lot going on in the world for bi folk and Pride marches often concentrate on the L & G (sometimes with a good effort for T) while the B in LGBT seems to be invisi le …

    However, Prides are a great time to show we exist, we are here and We Are:Proud! The official bi colour is purple and we at Bivisible towers are going to be dressed head to toe in purple. If we can get a contingent of many purple-clad people we can really stand out as the proud (and numerous!) people that we are.

    Coming to Pride dressed in purple is a really good way to meet other bisexual people, and people in the Bivisible group, without anyone else knowing what’s going on! It’s like the secret bi handshake. We’ll also have the exclusive info about the next Greedy: the club night for people with relaxed boundaries!

    We at Bivisible think Pride is also a really fabulous party and for a few minutes you get to be the centre of attention in a really colourful and happy march through town, with bemused onlookers wishing they could join in! This year is especially poignant because it is a slap in the face to the EDL (who are also marching in Bristol that day) but is a positive, happy parade instead of just meeting racists with anger. I think meeting racists with colourful flags, whistles, lollipops, laughing and people getting off with each other is much better and will scare them a lot more!

    Don’t have anything purple to wear? Well don’t worry Bivisible is bringing along for sale a selection of t-shirts, badges and flags, so you can be bi and proud!

    Here is the link to the Facebook event for those of you connected to social media. Please let us know if you’re coming, bring & invite your friends!


    Tagged: bi, meets, pride, visibility
     
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    ssica3003 7:20 pm on April 10, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Ok, now it really is meet-up day :-) 

    Thursday, two days from now, 7pm, in our favourite co-op cafe. New people: this means you! Not new people: don’t forget to check the last post on the blog and bring your homework! I’ll try to remember to print out the questions for the consultation.

    Just to rile you up a bit, here is a section from Stonewall’s response:

    Question 8: The Government is not considering opening up civil partnerships to opposite-sex couples. Do you agree or disagree with this proposal?

    This is a matter for heterosexual couples and Stonewall would recommend that the Government consults with them and stakeholder organisations representing them.

    What the actual f ?

    See you there.


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      Jen 9:09 pm on April 10, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Stonewall’ve been told about this one. Indeed, they’ve been told quite some time ago… so we can be fairly sure that this isn’t an accidental bit of bi-erasure…

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    ssica3003 12:04 pm on April 4, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Bi Homework 

    Hello all, my co-chair and I were completely convinced it was Bivisible Bristol tomorrow, but according to the 2nd and 4th rule, our next official meeting is not until next week. So, in lieu of a real meeting I have a bi-related task for you.

    You may have heard the government is consulting on equal marriage – ie extending ‘marriage’ to same-sex partners rather than using the current system of civil partnerships for same sex couples and marriage for different sex couples.

    You can read about the consultation and respond to it online here.

    Organisations and individuals can respond to the consultation which ends in June.

    Bi activist Jen (who edits Bi Community News) is putting together a response on behalf of bisexual organisations in the UK, similar to Stonewall’s organisational response.

    So, your homework is to have a look at the consultation (it’s long and once you’ve read the pre-amble you can just skip to Annex B which has the set of questions the government want people to respond to. I would suggest also reading Stonewall’s response (much shorter!) so that you can see the kinds of thoughts that equalities groups might have to the questions.

    When we next meet, we’ll be having a chat about all of your thoughts as bi people regarding the prospect of marriage for same sex couples (and civil partnerships for opposite sex couples?)

    So, would anybody like to have an ‘extra’ meeting tomorrow to begin this conversation and then we can be very welcoming to the hundreds of new people that are coming to the group on the 12th? Let’s meet at Cafe Kino, then we could move up the road to The Social for a drink at 8pm. Let me know your thoughts in the comments or drop me an email or message the Facebook group.

    See you soon!


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    ssica3003 8:32 pm on March 28, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Bisexuality Awareness Training 

    What would you include?

    I am looking to put together a package of training (most likely quite short e.g two hours) for non-bisexual people interested in improving their bisexual offer/services/practices.

    So, what would you include so that the non-bis are more aware of bi lives, experiences and problems. Love to hear your thoughts in the comments.


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